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Intelligent Design Movie Is Not for Heathens


Russell Blackford


Metamagician and the Hellfire Club

March 22, 2008

For all I know, Ben Stein may be Apollo’s gift to the professions of acting and gameshow hosting, and to some of the other odd activities that have come his way from time to time in a long career that’s more varied than the Galapagos finches.


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Posted by frikle  on  03/22  at  06:37 PM

Although it might do reasonable damage in the US, I think Australia’s pretty safe—the percentage of creationists here is much much lower. I saw the preview and it was EVEN STUPIDER than I thought from the blog reviews I read—I would like to think that a vast majority of Australians will see through the tricks (especially when Stein supposedly goes to Auschwitz to lament what Darwinism caused—tasteful!)





Posted by totaldoug  on  03/25  at  11:13 AM

America and its religious fundamentalism scares the bejesus out of me (excuse the pun!).  They are aggressive, belligerent and completely unswayed by anything as trite as evidence.  I’m engaged in an amusing, if a little creepy, online dialogue with the Christian hit squad over a You Tube video by a christian rock band.  I admit I’m deliberately provoking them but not in an aggressive way.  Their answers and questions are very revealing and deeply disturbing.  The World’s atheists must not sit back and let the noisy and well-organised God-squad trample over generations of brilliant academic advances, it’s time for Richard Dawkins and his like to get a lot more support from the millions who are tired of religion and the damage it has done and continues to do.





Posted by Fergul Menhaden  on  04/05  at  07:53 AM

As Christians it is important for us to oppose that demon science. They have lied to us about the earth NOT being in the center of the universe and the earth being more than 6000 years old.  Lies all!

Glory be that Ben Stein has the sense and knowledge to take on the science devils. They preach the teachings of SATAN and influenced the Nazi’s! If this film stops one person from burning in hell with scientists and the homos and the Mud People then it is a great film.

This is the turning point. I see Christian America rising up against the science devils in revolt! Glory be the day that we tear down your liberal universitys of lies, burn the scientists and turn those labs into chapels for the Lord!





Posted by Marlene R.  on  04/25  at  04:47 PM

I just read an article this morning in the “Zeit” magazine about “expelled” and it struck me, as always when I get news from the ID-ists front. Although they are not at all really active in Germany, they are trying hard to achieve at least some attention.
As in so many matters, the US appear as a nation with incredible dividing lines and a leck of reflection.
What about the political major thesis, religious fanatism is an obstacle for democratic development. Oh - I forgot. The US are highly democratically developed.
And I do not want to forget the openmindedness. No.
Is it really democratic and open minded to introduce a religious metaphysic theory in schools where the kids do not even learn a bit about their religion itself?
No, it is not. Despite the fact, that it totally contradicts the concept of schools itself, to prepare kids for life, I mean a life that enables them to choose at their best and fitting their preferences, the concept of ID fails to encourage the kids interest in science and finally leads to stupid individuals that can be told everything as long as it offers a comfortable, cosy explanation of the world,
That is exactly what ID and Creationism and whatever do.





Posted by Marlene R.  on  04/25  at  04:54 PM

Hey again!!
I just saw the expelled movie website and, I mean I like fashion but that Ben Stein guy looks really ridiculus with his shorts and stockings.





Posted by Laura A  on  12/09  at  02:32 PM

Any scientist that has a least bit of conviction about his/her theories knows that challenging and rechallenging theories is positively essential to discovery.  Truth—if it is really the truth—welcomes tests and trials. So, if ID is as “stupid” as evolutionists think—why must they resort to name-calling in response?  Why not welcome the debate?

The shrill reaction of evolutionists to Expelled reminds me of the scene in the Wizard of the Oz where they tell Dorothy “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

You do people a disservice when you tell them NOT to question.  By the way questioning Darwinism isn’t the same as questioning the heliocentric theory.  The former has never been witnessed and cannot be replicated.  The latter can clearly be witnessed and proven.





Posted by pyropakman  on  02/12  at  03:52 AM

Except, Laura, that “Darwinism” (which really doesn’t make sense. Is Gravity “newtonism”?) has been verified over and over again. Lines of evidence:

- Transitional Fossils
- Embryology
- Genetics
- DNA
- Anatomy & Physiology

All of these have confirmed evolution over and over again. Modern Biology rests on it, having been rigorously tested and shown to be correct with over 200,000 peer-reviewed papers of support.





Posted by Gordon B  on  06/13  at  10:36 AM

I would like to introduce a little philosophy to the debate.Sartre raised a question for philosophical speculation.

Why does something exist instead on nothing?

There are only two ways to answer this question in a definative manner.Either there exists a personal God who thinks,feels and chooses,or there exists an impersonal God, more of an object than a subject,something that without its own personality works by chance and probabilities.In other words our world has either been designed by an infinite designer or it has come about by accident or by pure chance.

Those are the only two options that faith is offered;there are no alternatives. You have to choose!!





Posted by veronica  on  06/15  at  02:42 PM

“However you define it, ID involves no actual program of scientific investigation, no testable hypotheses, nothing that could possibly lead to an integrated body of theory. “

No argument here, but can’t the same thing be said of the theory propounded on IEEE often, that we on earth are a product of a simulation?





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