Think of an egoist atheist. What comes to mind? Here’s what doesn’t come to mind: trust in an altruistic god-like extraterrestrial. That, however, is only because you don’t know this egoist atheist: Forbidden Truth (“FT”).
“FT: Religions that promise afterlife upon death devalue life…”
There are exceptions to every rule: one great positive to houses of worship (organised religion, for short) is the succor they offer and give to the dying. What does a terminal patient have to lose by accepting a fiction of an afterlife? FT ought to visit houses of worship; mosques, churches, synagogues, etc., to see firsthand the benefits and liabilities of what they offer and provide. IMO we’d be better off having the benefits of succor for the dying without organised religion—eliminating the middleman so to speak—but religion has existed for so long it is embedded in our lives, for now. We take funerals, for instance, for granted, it is expected that the way funerals are conducted should remain the same albeit the real value is probably to the mortician and funeral parlor.
Posted by CygnusX1 on 11/17 at 09:06 AM
Derren Brown - Fear and Faith
Derren Brown, (mentalist), explains his hypothesis for Human psychological needs, origins and creation of religion. Then selects an atheist and uses empathy to give them a religious experience, (“God moment”), showing that all Human needs are fundamentally the same, and that brains are “pre-wired” for spirituality and faith.
Channel 4OD programmes are FREE to watch, simple subscription is required for older programmes.
Re: your discussion with FT - There are both ironies and many similarities in ideals above. The argument/disagreement seems to lie with the “personification” of Gods, (Ego), internalized and externalized, (Atheism rejects the latter)?
FT is correct to emphasize the importance of Ego, because this IS the core manifestation and illusion of “Self”, it is of great importance for existence. So where is God manifest? Who is God? Who then aspires?
Derren, of course there are many understandings of God. I trust in a God that is creative and compassionate posthumanity, both immanently expressed in our potential minds and bodies, and transcendently expressed in our actual world—we are thoughts of God, and we are a God in embryo.
Posted by CygnusX1 on 11/17 at 08:59 PM
Whilst egotism infers the preoccupation with an inflated sense of Self, the term does not equate merely with/to Selfish behaviours alone?
The Ego is the Self you presume to be and think that you are, (within the mind). There is no more to you than this, ultimately?
It is customary to talk of the ego and differentiate as if some attribute, an attached symbiosis that we may judge as arbiter from a distance. Yet this is really the ego reflecting upon it-Self?
In short, there is no genuine Self, enduring ego or eternal Soul. The Soul you presume to be or have is merely another term for Self identity, supported by the ego?
This does not negate the importance of who you are, who or what you aspire to become? The ego is the executive that drives us for good or ill, and moreover has conscience to discriminate even against it-Self?
CygnusX1, I agree with almost everything you wrote, although I disagree with the idea that “there is no genuine Self, enduring ego or eternal Soul” unless “Self”, “ego” and “Soul” are defined narrowly. So far as I’m concerned, all three exist dynamically, and it’s only by recognizing and acknowledging them as dynamic that we see and speak of them as there are genuinely and eternally.
Posted by SHaGGGz on 11/23 at 11:36 AM
Why is atheism’s representative some Objectivist douche?