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Kardashev Civilizations: Star Trek-like world in our future


Dick Pelletier


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February 05, 2013

Imagine if you could enjoy an exotic vacation billions of light years from Earth; or travel back in time to observe the dinosaurs in their violent world; or hop into a parallel universe where another you is living a better life than you; and you could swap places if you like.


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Posted by rmk948  on  02/05  at  02:20 PM

If I visit another self in a parallel universe who is living a better life than mine, what incentive would he have to switch places?





Posted by Dick Pelletier  on  02/05  at  04:19 PM

@rmk948,

By the time universe hopping technology arrives; probably when we Earthlings reach Type III Civilization status in about 1,000 years or so; our minds may not use anything like today’s reasoning, but who knows? Your other you may know something that you don’t.

Accurately predicting the future this far in advance is impossible. I guess we need to rely on science fiction for the answers.

Comments welcome.





Posted by Christian Corralejo  on  02/05  at  08:00 PM

@ Dick Pelletier

I think you evaded rmk948’s question rather than answered it.





Posted by Dick Pelletier  on  02/05  at  08:10 PM

@Christian Corralejo,

Yes, I did evade his question. Armed only with today’s 2013 mushy biological intelligence, I cannot even imagine how the human mind may operate in year 3000.





Posted by Christian Corralejo  on  02/05  at  10:04 PM

With that same “mushy biological intelligence” (you guys really under credit the brain) you’re automatically assuming that reason would somehow radically change in just 1000 years.  Look, we’ve been around for about 200,000 years and the general process of reasoning hasn’t really seemed to have change much.  Correct me if I’m wrong and if you have valid sources to support that notion, because transhumanist bias won’t cut it (no offense, really).





Posted by Intomorrow  on  02/06  at  12:08 AM

“Look, we’ve been around for about 200,000 years and the general process of reasoning hasn’t really seemed to have change much.”


Seemed? you mean to write reasoning has not changed much. So what do we have to lose by de-animalising?





Posted by Dick Pelletier  on  02/06  at  08:58 AM

@ Christian Corralejo,

I see the future advancing exponentially. Let’s just agree to disagree.





Posted by Christian Corralejo  on  02/06  at  10:36 AM

@ Dick Pelleteir

Fair enough

@ Intomorrow

That’s not my point but I dropping it for now.





Posted by Taiwanlight  on  02/09  at  03:57 AM

Going back to the original question, why would anyone have to switch lives? Maybe the one with the least satisfactory life could just stay with his counterform in the better universe? Or just try again in another universe?

Logic, boys and girls, logic. (Yes, I know I’m probably going to regret this comment! But let’s try and keep each other as logical as humans can, eh?)





Posted by Dick Pelletier  on  02/09  at  08:26 AM

When enhanced minds become available (minds that process iinformation millions of times faster than today’s mushy biological brains); our reasoning power may be as different from 2013 humans as we are from our cave-dweller ancestors.

In addition, how can we possibly imagine the differences in civilizations grown in parallel worlds?

The possibilities are great to ponder though.





Posted by Christian Corralejo  on  02/09  at  10:57 AM

“our reasoning power may be as different from 2013 humans as we are from our cave-dweller ancestors.”

I don’t think you’d find as much difference between 2013 humans and our “cave-dwelling ancestors” when it comes to reasoning.  Sure we know more but we still use general logic and reason.  On top of that just because we no more doesn’t mean were any more intelligent then our ancestors were.  Heck their brains were larger in volume than ours and we use technology to do most of our work and thinking for us.





Posted by Dick Pelletier  on  02/09  at  11:19 AM

Processing thoughts millions of times faster will allow us to bring up hundreds of simulated responses within a split second; then select the response that serves us best.

This mental trait will enable huge advances in humanity’s decision making and reasoning abilities.

As many technologies are advancing exponentially, it’s difficult to compare tomorrow’s society with today’s crude biologically-brained humans.






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