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Winners of the “Why Are We Alone?” Contest


David Brin
David Brin
Contrary Brin

Posted: Jun 23, 2012

My latest novel, Existence, reveals dozens of scenario about first contact, including a couple of unique ones concerning the Fermi Paradox or The Great Silence, as the quandary of why we have never encountered extraterrestrial civilization has been called. I’ve written about all this extensively in scientific papers and in fiction.

Only then I figured, why not go all-modern and crowd-source this question! So I put it to the folks at my Facebook Fan site, spurred by the offer of a prize—a hardcover first printing of EXISTENCE going to the top vote-getter.  We got a fair number of submissions and the top responses are presented here, ranging from the serious and thoughtful to the humorous and ironic…

...starting with our Grand Prize winner, Mr. Tony Farley, a physics teacher from California.

#1 We don’t have the capabilities to detect anything but a tightly beamed signal. And like detecting the sound of a jet in the sky, where you can see it, is not where you can detect signals from it. You have to point your microphone behind it. With tightly beamed signals over galactic distances, you have to know the proper motion of the planet and its sun and they have to know our proper motion to beam it to us. If they are ten light years away, they have to beam it to where we were ten years ago and we have to point our detectors to where they were ten years ago. All the SETI searches ignore this and hope a civilization is sending out a ridiculously powerful beam in all directions.  –Tony Farley

Tony Farley has also published a physics text, The Electric Force, for the iPad. (I don’t suppose he is related to Patrick Farley, the brilliant web artist who created the vivid preview trailer for Existence?)

In fact, Tony, you are partly on-target with this one. But first, where you are wrong. SETI searches engaged in by the top group near Berkeley do compensate for motions and Doppler shifts and orbital variations to a degree that would amaze you.  They can detect a signal that is spectrum-varying with time and compensate for that as the source spins and rotates and revolves around a noisy star. These are clever folks.

Still, you are right that they still make untenable assumptions. They search the sky with narrow listening beams… looking for aliens who might be BROADcasting hello signals in all directions.  But there’s no reason that even a beneficent race would do that, around the clock, for eons.  Horribly expensive.  They would, as you say, “ping” likely targets like our solar system, maybe once a century.  To detect such pings, instead of one expensive SETI program in one place, we should have a thousand backyard receivers, networked, scanning the whole sky at once.  Look up Project Argus of the SETI League!

And congratulations on your prize! A hardcover of Existence is winging its way to you.

#2 The universe is big in space AND time. It would be a major accomplishment for a technological society to remain intact for a million years, yet that is just a blip on the scale of the universe. How many galactic empires came and went before the Earth was even capable of supporting life? –Thomas Nackid

A good question.  And yes, we might simply not overlap with the others!  But note, Thomas, your assumption is that the numbers of tech races must be very small (and that may be the case) in order for the statistical non-overlap idea to work.  But if there are numerous long-lived species, then we get the Fermi Paradox. And if they travel?  A lot?  Colonization changes all the numbers!

Even if they just explore and don’t colonize, then the Earth would likely have been visited.  But even one toilet flush during the Archaean would have changed life on Earth in ways we’d detect in the rocks.

#3 Life, even intelligent life, is common in the universe, but advanced civilizations are rare, and hard to find in the small window of time that we have been looking, and not all advanced civilizations are nice. Getting between stars and communicating between stars is hard, and having someone close enough to communicate with at the same time you’re communicating is rare, and sometimes perilous. We have not found anyone yet because we can only shout at our nearest neighbors, and our local neighborhood is currently empty, probably by chance and possibly by malice. –Ilithi Dragon

I am one of the SETI experts who has been arguing that the Great Silence may be telling us something.  “If all the races more advanced than us are being quiet… maybe they know something we don’t know?”

Several major voices in the field, Like former NASA SETI chief John Billingham, have joined me in resigning from major committees in protest over the SETI Institute’s role in helping clear a path for METI or “MESSAGE to ETI.”  See our complaint: Shouting at the Cosmos—or How SETI has taken a Worrisome Turn into Dangerous Territory.

#4 They won’t unscramble the signal until we put a deposit down.  –Lone Hanks

hrm… you REALLY want to read my novel EXISTENCE!  There will come a couple of moments when you just break down with guffaws!

Along those same lines: We haven’t yet chosen a intergalactic long distance carrier. —Christopher R. Vesely

#5  The “Do Not Feed the Humans” sign just past Pluto deters all but delinquents making crop circles.  –Kevin King
Ditto my answer to #4!

#6 Civilized people do not just drop in uninvited. –Eli Roth
We’ve been inviting!

Along those same lines: There may be a “Prime Directive” ethos that they stick to.—Glenn Brockett

That’s the “Zoo Hypothesis” that comes in dozens of variations… all of which assume either that the ETIS are few and share the same value system, or else have one heckuva police force…

I’ll toss in one last one:

As society gets rich enough and technologically sophisticated enough, eventually everyone is able to live in their own personal Matrix, customized to provide them with their ideal life. Soon after the civilization stops bothering to expand any further, as the perfect existence can already be found on their home planet and nothing more could be wanted. Humans have a rare neurological structure that prevents them from being satisfied with this sort of simulation. –Eneasz Brodski

See also a discussion of The Great Filter: Does a Galaxy Filled with Habitable Planets Mean Humanity is Doomed? on io9—Robin Hanson’s concept that there may be some obstacle that consistently prevents species from reaching the technological stage where they can traverse interstellar distances.  (That’s the core topic in my new novel.)

Hey, we’ve run out of space (get it?) So, Congratulations Mr. Farley… and the rest of you for having lively minds!

 


David Brin Ph.D. is a scientist and best-selling author whose future-oriented novels include Earth, The Postman, and Hugo Award winners Startide Rising and The Uplift War. David's newest novel - Existence - is now available, published by Tor Books."
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One of the possible reasons why we may appear to be alone is that indeed we are simply alone.  Perhaps there is life, perhaps life of the simple forms of bacteria is all around us and indeed at that level it is common, but not complex life that gives rise to conscious/sentience that can collapse a quantum wavefunction by an act of awareness (a consciousness causes collapse interpretation of QM).  It’s an answer that is unnerving to many, but it has to be contemplated I think.  There is a cosmological principle called the final anthropic principle that suggests that we are the only sentient life form in this universe (perhaps out of a multiverse with other sentient life forms, one to each) because we have acausally brought this perfectly tuned universe into being by being here and being a sentient observer - collapsing the “universal wavefunction”.  Such a model would fit our quantum cosmological observations.

Also there is this… http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428700.100-life-is-it-inevitable-or-just-a-fluke.html?full=true





PS: to my last post… Actually, as I see it, the Final Anthropic Principle is a possible consequential extension to the Participatory Anthropic Principle.

For a review of these and other Anthropic speculations, see… http://www.bluffton.edu/~bergerd/essays/impert.html#part





I wish I knew about this sooner.  I would have loved to give my opinion.





I’ve looked at this question as being one of the dumbest ever asked.

Can primitive natives detect radio communications?

Can a tribe that has never heard of the airplane understand it is not a bird?

Can a person with no concepts of technology figure out HOW even the simplest electronics work?

SETI is looking for something it has no hope of finding, because any society able to travel interstellar space is going to know things about physics we haven’t even begun to suspect exist. Why use radio if some as yet unknown technique would allow them to use Bell’s theorem to communicate FTL? Why suppose that a “sufficiently advanced technology” would produce waste heat, or ANY form of waste products we could detect?

We’re just now developing our understanding of what “the limits of the possible” even are, and are who knows HOW many decades or centuries away from a complete understanding, not to mention the indications we have that perhaps even some of our most basic assumptions about reality are flawed and incomplete, like the inability to reconcile physics with quantum dynamics, and our failure to find “gravitons” and the Higgs’ Boson. WE DO NOT KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW. So at it’s most basic, SETI is a flawed project with almost no merit.

Simply put, if we HAVE been visited, and there is some not quite so easy to dismiss anecdotal evidence to it’s slight possibility, there is not, and never has been, a way we could have resisted an invasion if that was their goal. One nanovirus would wipe this ball of rock clean and we would not have the slightest hope of combating it. Arguments about resources are just idiotic, because why bother to collect resources from Earth when there is a billion billion times more resources floating around the solar system in places where there is no gravity well making it hard to collect.

TBH, I simply cannot read about SETI with a straight face. It’s just one expensive joke.





@ Valkyrie Ice

To an extent I agree with you.  I’ve heard recently from an episode of the History Channel show “The Universe” (talking about the micro-universe) that quantum physics can allow communication between any two points in the universe instantaneously.  I also agree that a lot of the money given to SETI could be better spent elsewhere.  However, the laws of physics are universal and have limits themselves so I find it doubtful that any advanced civilization would discover something incredibly new.





We have a defective theory of mind, and SETI resembles those foolish ghost-hunting reality series on cable. The ghost hunters hear some random noise, attribute it to the spirit of the dead lighthouse keeper or something, and then try to engage in communications with this nonexistent mind they just imagined.

SETI makes about as much sense, only geeks consider it more respectable and “scientific” than ghost hunting.





This is ambiguous on universal physics laws:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=190062





I suspect we’re looking in the wrong place. Unless our best theory of the world, quantum mechanics, is false, then an abundance of other civilisations exist, and they leave their signature on “our” world, and we on theirs, in the guise of subtle interference effects.
(cf. http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mert0130/books-emergent.shtml ) Decoherence (“splitting”) is never complete.





I think were just not useful yet. The Voice of Cepheus, one of my favorite books, uses something similar to that scenario. We simply aren’t advanced enough for them to use yet. Maybe they are an organism which needs more server space and we don’t have a compatible system yet.





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