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Life Values: Quantity, Quality, and Meaning


Mike Treder
Mike Treder
Ethical Technology

Posted: May 11, 2009

The current IEET reader poll asks: If you could be any age you desired, for as long as you chose, would you opt for it? To answer, we may have to consider whether we most value quantity, quality, or meaning in life.

It won’t be long, presumably, before humans will be able to extend their lifespans by 50%, 100%, or perhaps even indefinitely. If you value quantity more than anything, meaning that you’re most interested in maximizing your learning, your experiences, and your opportunities, it seems obvious that you would want to live as long as possible.

In our poll we’ve qualified the question of life extension by saying you would have the option of being any age you desired, meaning you could have the health, vigor, and mental acuity of, say, a 28 year-old for as long as you wanted (barring accident or homicide). But would you answer the same way if adding years to your life simply meant a prolonged period of middle age, or even old age? For some hyper-curious people—like me—those extra years might still be worth it, if only just to see what happens in the coming centuries. For others who value quality more than quantity, the answer might be different.





Everyone has their own definition of ‘quality’. For you it might mean closeness with family or other loved ones; for some it might be the ability to enjoy richness, whether in food, comfort, entertainment, intellectual stimulation, or something else; and for some it might be strictly hedonistic indulgence in drugs, sex, or other pleasures they most enjoy.

Of course, there is wide blurry line between quantity and quality. I could argue that simply gaining more experience and more learning by living longer would add great quality to my life, even if some of the later decades are spent in increasing infirmity. You might counter that growing old in body and spirit is not worth it if that means sacrificing some of the activities that bring quality to your life. And then we get to the question of meaning.

Most of today’s intellectuals likely would say that the ‘meaning’ each individual gives to his or her life is a personal, subjective choice. Although a small percentage of scientists and other educated professionals around the world profess belief in God (or some other form of higher power), the large majority are either atheist or agnostic. This, of course, stands in stark contrast to the general population in the United States (but not in Europe), and to much of the developing world. But just because you or I may not accept the idea that human life or the universe as a whole has any intrinsic meaning or purpose, that does not mean we cannot assign meaning to our own individual lives.

In accepting this premise, we are then challenged to decide whether it is quantity or quality (or something else?) that contributes most to the realization or self-actualization of whatever meaning we’ve chosen for our lives. On the other hand, you may be so unwilling to accept the premise that life can have any meaning that you choose to devote your efforts entirely to maximizing either quality or quantity. I’d be interested to hear how some of our IEET readers have worked out these questions for themselves.


Mike Treder is the Managing Director of the IEET, and former Executive Director of the non-profit Center for Responsible Nanotechnology.
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> "Most of today’s intellectuals likely would say that the ‘meaning’ each individual gives to his or her life is a personal, subjective choice. Although a small percentage of scientists and other educated professionals around the world profess belief in God (or some other form of higher power), the large majority are either atheist or agnostic.">

Last I heard, 40 percent (a small minority?) of scientists believe in God. (Perhaps you meant biologists?) Scientists are but a subset of educated professionals (not to mention intellectuals), whose percentage is surely higher than that. According to Livescience, "Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline," the number of believers is closer to 66%.

Sorry about focusing on the least important part of your article. The article raises some great questions. Having read Viktor Frankl's experiences in the camps "Man's Search for Meaning," I surmise that he'd vote for meaning. I think I would, too.



Actually about 93% of the members of the National Science Foundation are atheist/agnostic (6 or 7 on the Dawkins belief spectrum) - the other 7% are trying to get money from the Templeton Foundation. wink

Meaning is both shared but uniquely personal and is derived from the ongoing process of life in a cultural context.



Also, check out this article titled "Leading scientists still reject God" published in Nature, where you can see comparative results of surveys conducted in 1914, 1933, and 1998 among members of the National Academy of Sciences.



I guess all that Mr. Treder could've done in the article was to point out that he was talking specifically about "greater" scientists. Then, the individual scientists reading the article can fight it out amongst themselves as to who is greater. grin



It seems that quality and meaning deepens with quantity of life for most people. As time passes we gain experience in the world and our perspective enlarges. As our perspective enlarges our understanding increases and our ability to interact meaningfully in our environment grows. We learn from our failures and delight in our little successes; both push us forward. Perhaps the slowest learners with the most obstacles, both internal and external, have the most to gain from a drastically increased lifespan.

At the ripe old age of 57, I can enthusiastically embrace the idea of living in this physical shell for an indefinite period. I feel more fit, happy, competent, and confident than I did at age 28. I felt more unattractive then, although objectively I can see that it's not the case. It's just that time has allowed me to come to terms with my flaws; I really wouldn't change anything beyond continuing to work on optimizing health and fitness. I wouldn't trade my flawed body for a perfect Barbie doll bioshell. I hope I'll still feel this way when I'm seventy.



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