Dr. J. chats with Shaun Chamberlin about his new book The Transition Timeline For a Local, Resilient Future. Chamberlin is the founder of the Dark Optimism site. (MP3)

Dr. J. chats with Shaun Chamberlin about his new book The Transition Timeline For a Local, Resilient Future. Chamberlin is the founder of the Dark Optimism site. (MP3)

http://www.archive.org/download/Csr-transitionToAResilientCivilization/20090418chamberlin.MP3