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Statement on the Recent TED/Psi/Consciousness Controversy


Ben Goertzel


http://wp.goertzel.org/?p=495

April 20, 2013

There has been a minor kerfuffle recently regarding the TED franchise’s decision to remove from their main video site, TEDx conference talks given by scientists promoting psi research and the exploration of non-reductionistic approaches to consciousness.


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Posted by martinchoops  on  04/20  at  03:39 PM

Science is a method.  It is what Scientists do.  It is not a beleif system.  They can believe that Manchester United are a better team than Manchester City, it won’t make them less professional generally speaking!

The concern of many is that some science advocates, with New Atheist labeling, make a hubristic case, that can not be sustained, that their belief system (“Scientism”) trumps all other belief systems. Indeed it is a fundamentalist position that excludes other beliefs that are not necessarily in conflict with science.

Some within their cadre actively promote mocking, militant and aggressive behavior, seeking to censor and prevent other voices being heard other than their own shrill illogical positivism.

In the Huffington post article about the TED censorship this point is made…

“Dawkins, who has a close association with TED, gave a TED talk in 2002 where he said the following:

‘It may sound as if I am about to preach atheism. I want to reassure you that that’s not what I am going to do. In an audience as sophisticated as this one, that would be preaching to the choir. [scattered laughter] No, what I want to urge upon you is militant atheism.’”

The point is preaching, choirs and evangelical atheism is old Church rhetoric. TED should avoid becoming the pulpit of the “Church of Scientism.”





Posted by c_veronica  on  04/20  at  05:40 PM

It’s unfortunate that there’s this black and white perception of science and spiritualism in the face of frontier science such as consciousness research, new physics, cosmology, etc. I think it was Richard Tarnas who called the emergence of this stark dichotomy a development of ‘‘two faces’’ - those faces being of discovery/progress and of disaster/fall - both being born out of the same interests. But with a westernized world view we are incapable of processing the new research as an intertwined version of both positive and negative faces (as I believe it, like everything else, actually is in reality). I think it’s extremely relevant to the way the public is reacting to consciousness studies. As a young consciousness/cognition researcher (starting graduate school this fall!), I hope that this discourse evolves to a place that is recognizing the inherent interconnectedness of not only the subject matter but the means of study. I hope that TED and groups like it hear voices like Goertzel’s and, as he said,  “rescind their decision”. We may not even be close to the mark in understanding qualia, as the complexity of this study can not be emphasized enough, and as a scientific discipline it’s in it’s infancy. But, we’re never going to make progress if we allow the fearful and the cognitively dissonant to persuade us into silence. This should be OBVIOUS to scientists, with history consistently telling this same story.





Posted by SHaGGGz  on  04/21  at  05:17 AM

@martinchoops: Are you suggesting that the Church has a monopoly on evangelizing behavior, or that evangelizing is somehow inherently Churchlike?





Posted by AstralProjectee  on  04/22  at  01:13 AM

Totally agree with you there Ben. Keep on doing what you are doing and fighting for consciousness.





Posted by stevendeedon  on  05/11  at  01:18 PM

Good move, Ben.  A few years or so back, I mistakenly would up in a Rupert Sheldrake program at Yale (I thought the film scholar David Bordwell would be speaking at the location.)  He was reporting on animal awareness research and on an African Gray parrot named N’kisi.  I admit to some “prejudice”— we had a great rapport, particularly talking about Mahamudra and Dzogchen (his wife practices the latter).  But I’m very intrigued by his “citizen science” movement.  Amateur astronomers make great contributions.  I see no reason that amateur ethnologists, etc. can’t be trained to record behaviors, or to become amateur psychologists, running simple experiments.






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