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Will Robots Steal Your Job?



Martin Ford

New America Foundation

Posted: Oct 1, 2011




Robots and computers have made astonishing progress at acquiring what we’ve long considered fundamentally human capabilities. Machines are beginning to understand language. They can listen, they can speak, they can read, and they may even be able to write. They’re getting better at visual pattern recognition; computers can tell the difference between your face and your dad’s face, and they may be able to look at a biopsy slide and tell the difference between a cancerous cell and a healthy one. Computers might even be able to “reason” the way humans can. Perhaps they’ll soon sit in judgment when you appeal your traffic ticket.

We’ve seen robots take over many jobs that require routine activities and manual labor, but what impact will they have on high-skilled workers, including medical professionals, lawyers, scientists, and journalists? Which jobs are most vulnerable to the “robot invasion,” and which jobs will the robots be unable to touch? (Hint: not many.) Should we be happy about the robots—after all, they’ll probably make our jobs easier—or should we be worried? And if the robots are coming, should we try to stop them?

At this September 2011 event, Slate technology columnist Farhad Manjoo and a panel of experts explored these questions and more.

For more about this event, visit: http://www.newamerica.net/node/57814/edit


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A) My job is in no wise property and thus cannot be 'stolen'.

B) I would be utterly delighted if AI had advanced enough to function well as a software architect with all that requires.




This whole talk is annoying from start to finish.

Especially the two guys to Martin Fords left.

They are so wrong on so many things you don't know where to start.

The idea that people will need hundreds of personal servants is completely ludicrous.

Why do I need a personal shopper when I can order everything I need online ?

Why is it easier to tell a shopper to get me a handbag from Harrods when I can just speak into the google search engine "handbag Harrods ".

They need to get over the fact that technology WILL eliminate almost all INVOLUNTARY human labor, and that is a GOOD thing.

People can work at things they enjoy if they wish to have "identity" from their work. People can pursue things that interest them, become artists, musicians, pursue science, history, archeology, whatever.. the point is they wont be FORCED to work any more, and that is a VERY GOOD THING, and should be CELEBRATED.

Instead these guys are talking like its a bad thing !

We will need an income guarantee for all and not in "70 years" like the guy on the far right says but actually very very soon.

And it doesn't matter if people "like" the idea of a guaranteed income or not, it will HAVE to be done, unless you want a violent revolution by millions of starving unemployed first.



Martin Fox: in short, we'll soon have communism, as Marx saw it.



@Ronin

Open source has all the benefits of socialism without coercion or state legitimized initiatory force.

I like to think of the open source/access movement as HYPER-CAPITALISM



The source/access movement is LIBERTARIAN-SOCIALISM progressing to communism.. i.e. voluntary participation, ownership of the means of production by the "proletariat" and the state withering away. It is absolutely not capitalism.

I foresee a time when people will design the schematics for products in an open source way using supercomputing power and AI in the cloud. The schematic files will then be fed into your home nanofactory to produce your product. i.e food, clothes, furniture, very efficient solar cells, nano water condensers, appliances etc. etc. Your household waste including your toilet waste could also be fed back into the nanofactory as feedstock.


The reason why so many people in anglo nations recoil at the idea of the end of involuntary work is because of the historical legacy of the protestant work ethic, (salvation through work) this is not thought about consciously too much but it is in the culture on an unconscious level. This will initially cause some political resistance to ideas like the income guarantee, but this resistance will ultimately be futile.




@Ipan and Martin

As optimistic as I am that open source systems and technologies may create disruptive change, there will be no purely voluntaristic progress. Socialism cannot be achieved without the exercise of state power - the wealthy and corporations will end run all voluntaristic attempts to subvert their power and privilege. Cooperative economics without redistribution and state policy is the collectivization of poverty and powerlessness. One simple example of the weakness of the open source=new socialism idea is the intellectual property regime. Napster was open source socialism for music and it was crushed. China has profited from lax enforcement of IP laws, but even it is getting on board with global IP enforcement. Do you think that there won't be efforts to penalize people who share desktop fab designs, or a profit-driven market in fabber materials? Read Cory Doctorow's Makers - I think he accurately predicts the end result of open source and desktop production as being widespread unemployment, which may then hopefully create the demand for a basic income and other public goods that can only be delivered through a (hopefully democratic) state.

J. Hughes



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